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anyone heard of alfalfa?
from a few stories i've read, they seem accurate enough, anyone know anything else about this supp.?
ill look for the stuff i found earlier, too sleepy right now.

check it out

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Alfalfa is something like anti estrogens am I right?


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this is long, but to whoever cares this is what alfalfa is, im gonna just copy and paste what i found.

Name: Alfalfa
Latin Name: Medicago sativa, aka “King of Herbs”, “Father of all Foods”, “King of the Plants”.



Why Alfalfa? Alfalfa was brought to America around 1850, Peru, and today is the largest crop grown in this country. Its roots go as far as 40 feet deep into the ground and pull up all sorts of great minerals. Alfalfa is the richest source of ipriflavone. Ipriflavone is "perhaps the most thoroughly examined compound in the natural health industry." Ipriflavone has an impressive scientific record. It has been the subject of more than 60 different clinical studies in Italy, Japan, and Hungary, featuring almost 2,800 patients with confirmed osteoporosis.



How it works: It is believed that by taking large amounts of alfalfa tablets (8 tablets three times a day), one may grow up to three quarter inch (2 centimeters) within 6 months due to the release of growth hormones. Growth may occur in the skull or other places where cartilage is located since growth plate in this area has not closed. It sounds amazing but the side effects are often the opposite as one may develop acromegaly (overproduction of growth hormone)

Hello,

I'd just like to pass on something I have discovered quite by accident while taking the herb Alfalfa. I started taking it in March this year after hearing about its considerable health benefits. About 3 months of taking generous doses of it a day, I did indeed feel healthier all round, but also became aware that I seemed to be looking at the world from a slightly higher viewpoint than usual, and that I was looking down at a friend who'd been at my own eye level previously. If I'd just bought a differnt pair of shoes (or he had), then I probably wouldnt have thought too much of this, but this hadnt happened!

Now in October after continuing taking the herb, the effect is yet more pronounced, and indeed getting myself measured tells me I am now over 6ft 1" instead of the pushing 5ft 11" I used to be! This is remarkable because I am 32 and according to popular medical opinion I should have stopped growing a LONG time ago. However theres no arguing with being measured with tape measure while standing barefoot - I am TALLER.

Looking at the info out there on Alfalfa, I see its described as a powerful natural stimulator of growth hormone, so it seems to fit exactly with whats happened. Other supplements I've been taking since earlier this year may well have also had an influence : Sea Kelp; L'arginine, and a fully comprehensive all-in-one vit and mineral supplement.

So, if at this stage of my life its possible to add height (my hands have also increased in size), then for abnormally short infants/teenagers the growth potential should be far greater.

I was using a considerable amount of Alfalfa - as much as 20 tablets a day (the bottle guidleines say '9 or more a day'), and there may well be a slight risk to taking this much (acromegaly and other conditons can result from too much growth hormone ), but my health seems very good nonetheless. So cheap too - at only £3.50 a bottle from health shops here in the UK.

I urge people visiting here to investigate this, as I feel sure it has strong capabilty to help those people whose lives feel blighted as a result of their height.

Good luck all,

Kaneka
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this is a response from the website i took that last bit

Hello again,

Heh, I understand you guys are going to be sceptical, as I certainly would be. No doubt you've had a lot of b/s thrown your way by all sorts of charlatans wanting to make money off your desire to be taller - everywhere theres a need, theres a scammer.

I know its rare but I'm just a person who gives a damn about others. Thats the ONLY reason for me putting something up here for you people to look at and consider - I know how cruel false hope can be, so would never feed people knowingly false information just for money or just as bad, kicks. I benefitted (in an unexpected way), and just wanted to pass on what I'd discovered.

Max - you read my post a little too quickly, because I didnt say I was 6ft 1 after 3 months! I merely noticed a difference in my height. Now in October, after getting meaured up, I'm 6ft 1. Granted it still qualifies as an astounding growth spurt for someone in their early thirties, but on the other hand I remember reading several doctors online saying the plates could theoretically stay open until the late 20s and possibly beyond. People age at a different rate, depending on so many varying factors and perhaps I've aged slower due to my long standing habits of eating very healthily, taking a wide variety of supplements, and avoiding smoking, drug taking and alcohol almost completely (apart from the odd tipple of wine and liquor ), thus giving me a wider time-frame to develop in.

Anyway, received medical/scientific wisdom isnt always fixed, as anyone whose read a bit will know. For example, formally it was alleged that the formation of new brain cells after the mid 20s wasnt possible, but now neuroscientists say it IS. Cloning of a human was poo-pooed as 'impossible', now it can be done. And dont forget that Science once held that the sun revolved around the Earth, and anyone saying otherwise was at risk of being burned alive.

I'll give you another personal example.... I had appalling tinnitus (ringing in the ears), for years - a condition supposedly untreatable in Western medicine. It was maddening - Ive even heard stories of people throwing themselves out of windows in desperation to end the suffering it can inflict in severe cases. Then reading a book on traditional Chinese Healing, I found a method, and after 3 months or so I was cured! I now only need to do the exercise every now and then to keep the symptoms at bay.

Moral : scepticism is a very useful thing, but so is keeping an open mind.

"1) what get you start taking Alfalfa? "

I started taking Alfalfa when I heard of its repetition as 'King of all foods'. I was intrigued, so investigated , and read that it is an extremely powerful stimulant of growth hormone, and that taking it benefits the body in many ways, including going some way to beat the toll ageing takes on the body. Also I read that it promotes BONE GROWTH and muscle development, by stimulating the pituitary gland. Bone development IS possible for even people in their 60s and beyond, as the research on the condition known as Acromegaly will testify. People will this 'disorder' bones grow wider as a result of too much growth hormone. Wedding rings will no longer get on fingers; hats and shoes will no longer fit - even the nose often gets bigger!

http://www.kcweb.com/herb/alfalfa.htm

http://aolsearch.aol.co.uk/web?query=acr...sinit=true



[Just Google and youll see plenty of info to peruse].


I've been naturally quite scrawny since birth, and I wanted to bulk out - thus the strong interest.

2) "why are you taking 20 tablets which is double of the bottle-guideline recommended? "

Well the instruction actually read exactly like this :

'take 3 or more tablets with each meal'

No upper dose is stated! I cautiously upped the dose to 20 daily gradually, on the look out for any adverse effects. Sometimes I felt fatigued, but I took so many because I wanted to maximise what growth potential I had left, so it was a small price to pay for any such pay off.

I noticed I stated to get strong sensations in my face and head which were like the growing pains I remembered from adolescence, but much more powerful. These have been so persistant and strong that I reduced my dose dramically when I noticed my face had broadened somewhat, then measured the circumference of my skull which had increased by over half an inch (very significant!)

I must say though, be very cautious about taking the kind of dose I was necking. Though I'm fine and actually feel better than I have for a long time, I cant say with authority everyone else would be. Have a look at the thread above from the guy who says he knows his medicine/biology



and read up a lot about the effects and risks of NATURAL growth hormone (such as symptoms mimicking acromegaly), then weigh it all up in your own mind and decide on what limits youre willing to set. Be careful, and do your research!

3) "Do you do any excercises besides taking those vitamins and supplements?"

I'm very intrigued by the special stretching exercises Ive become aware of since having a look at forums like this, and I'll probably try them out of curiosity, but no, I hadnt been doing any of them in this period - after all, I wasnt specifically looking to get taller (though it was very welcome bonus effect!).

4)" Did you recommend Alfalfa to any of your family, friends, or relatives? And did anyone of them had the same success as you have? "

Well, I recently recommended Alfalfa to a friend but only for general well being as he's quite tall already - and most of my family are pretty tall anyway, so its only on a few places like this Ive been enthusiastic about it. But I'm sure other health substances have an effect too. Again look into all the various supplements on the (legal and safe) market - youll be surprised by how many things can contribute to growth.

Omega 3 acids (a great source is found in Faxsee oil), evening primrose oil, ginseng, kelp (iodine rich) and a myriad of other things help the body build and rebuild itself. Even if you only grow a little, your whole health will certainly blossom as a result of a judicious spending on health supplements, so itll be worth your modest investment.

5) "would you mind coming back to this forum regularly and answer questions? "

I cant come back every day (very busy), but sure, I'll answer as best I can - I only wanted to offer a bit of help to others who want to change

Kaneka

http://www.network54.com/Forum/189510/th...estigating

thats the link to the thread....
it seems legit to me, anyone else that knows anything on the subject i'd like to hear what you have to say
check it out, im considering it (if you take TOO much you could get acromegaly) but in the right quanities im sure it might help.

-eliyoungfan

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http://www.network54.com/Forum/177048/me...In+Here%21

check this website out too if your interested
i dont really have any doubts now. i'd like some feedback guys Smile!

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eliyoungfan Wrote:
this is long, but to whoever cares this is what alfalfa is, im gonna just copy and paste what i found.

Name: Alfalfa
Latin Name: Medicago sativa, aka “King of Herbs”, “Father of all Foods”, “King of the Plants”.



Why Alfalfa? Alfalfa was brought to America around 1850, Peru, and today is the largest crop grown in this country. Its roots go as far as 40 feet deep into the ground and pull up all sorts of great minerals. Alfalfa is the richest source of ipriflavone. Ipriflavone is "perhaps the most thoroughly examined compound in the natural health industry." Ipriflavone has an impressive scientific record. It has been the subject of more than 60 different clinical studies in Italy, Japan, and Hungary, featuring almost 2,800 patients with confirmed osteoporosis.



How it works: It is believed that by taking large amounts of alfalfa tablets (8 tablets three times a day), one may grow up to three quarter inch (2 centimeters) within 6 months due to the release of growth hormones. Growth may occur in the skull or other places where cartilage is located since growth plate in this area has not closed. It sounds amazing but the side effects are often the opposite as one may develop acromegaly (overproduction of growth hormone)

Hello,

I'd just like to pass on something I have discovered quite by accident while taking the herb Alfalfa. I started taking it in March this year after hearing about its considerable health benefits. About 3 months of taking generous doses of it a day, I did indeed feel healthier all round, but also became aware that I seemed to be looking at the world from a slightly higher viewpoint than usual, and that I was looking down at a friend who'd been at my own eye level previously. If I'd just bought a differnt pair of shoes (or he had), then I probably wouldnt have thought too much of this, but this hadnt happened!

Now in October after continuing taking the herb, the effect is yet more pronounced, and indeed getting myself measured tells me I am now over 6ft 1" instead of the pushing 5ft 11" I used to be! This is remarkable because I am 32 and according to popular medical opinion I should have stopped growing a LONG time ago. However theres no arguing with being measured with tape measure while standing barefoot - I am TALLER.

Looking at the info out there on Alfalfa, I see its described as a powerful natural stimulator of growth hormone, so it seems to fit exactly with whats happened. Other supplements I've been taking since earlier this year may well have also had an influence : Sea Kelp; L'arginine, and a fully comprehensive all-in-one vit and mineral supplement.

So, if at this stage of my life its possible to add height (my hands have also increased in size), then for abnormally short infants/teenagers the growth potential should be far greater.

I was using a considerable amount of Alfalfa - as much as 20 tablets a day (the bottle guidleines say '9 or more a day'), and there may well be a slight risk to taking this much (acromegaly and other conditons can result from too much growth hormone ), but my health seems very good nonetheless. So cheap too - at only £3.50 a bottle from health shops here in the UK.

I urge people visiting here to investigate this, as I feel sure it has strong capabilty to help those people whose lives feel blighted as a result of their height.

Good luck all,

Kaneka
--------------------
this is a response from the website i took that last bit

Hello again,

Heh, I understand you guys are going to be sceptical, as I certainly would be. No doubt you've had a lot of b/s thrown your way by all sorts of charlatans wanting to make money off your desire to be taller - everywhere theres a need, theres a scammer.

I know its rare but I'm just a person who gives a damn about others. Thats the ONLY reason for me putting something up here for you people to look at and consider - I know how cruel false hope can be, so would never feed people knowingly false information just for money or just as bad, kicks. I benefitted (in an unexpected way), and just wanted to pass on what I'd discovered.

Max - you read my post a little too quickly, because I didnt say I was 6ft 1 after 3 months! I merely noticed a difference in my height. Now in October, after getting meaured up, I'm 6ft 1. Granted it still qualifies as an astounding growth spurt for someone in their early thirties, but on the other hand I remember reading several doctors online saying the plates could theoretically stay open until the late 20s and possibly beyond. People age at a different rate, depending on so many varying factors and perhaps I've aged slower due to my long standing habits of eating very healthily, taking a wide variety of supplements, and avoiding smoking, drug taking and alcohol almost completely (apart from the odd tipple of wine and liquor ), thus giving me a wider time-frame to develop in.

Anyway, received medical/scientific wisdom isnt always fixed, as anyone whose read a bit will know. For example, formally it was alleged that the formation of new brain cells after the mid 20s wasnt possible, but now neuroscientists say it IS. Cloning of a human was poo-pooed as 'impossible', now it can be done. And dont forget that Science once held that the sun revolved around the Earth, and anyone saying otherwise was at risk of being burned alive.

I'll give you another personal example.... I had appalling tinnitus (ringing in the ears), for years - a condition supposedly untreatable in Western medicine. It was maddening - Ive even heard stories of people throwing themselves out of windows in desperation to end the suffering it can inflict in severe cases. Then reading a book on traditional Chinese Healing, I found a method, and after 3 months or so I was cured! I now only need to do the exercise every now and then to keep the symptoms at bay.

Moral : scepticism is a very useful thing, but so is keeping an open mind.

"1) what get you start taking Alfalfa? "

I started taking Alfalfa when I heard of its repetition as 'King of all foods'. I was intrigued, so investigated , and read that it is an extremely powerful stimulant of growth hormone, and that taking it benefits the body in many ways, including going some way to beat the toll ageing takes on the body. Also I read that it promotes BONE GROWTH and muscle development, by stimulating the pituitary gland. Bone development IS possible for even people in their 60s and beyond, as the research on the condition known as Acromegaly will testify. People will this 'disorder' bones grow wider as a result of too much growth hormone. Wedding rings will no longer get on fingers; hats and shoes will no longer fit - even the nose often gets bigger!

http://www.kcweb.com/herb/alfalfa.htm

http://aolsearch.aol.co.uk/web?query=acr...sinit=true



[Just Google and youll see plenty of info to peruse].


I've been naturally quite scrawny since birth, and I wanted to bulk out - thus the strong interest.

2) "why are you taking 20 tablets which is double of the bottle-guideline recommended? "

Well the instruction actually read exactly like this :

'take 3 or more tablets with each meal'

No upper dose is stated! I cautiously upped the dose to 20 daily gradually, on the look out for any adverse effects. Sometimes I felt fatigued, but I took so many because I wanted to maximise what growth potential I had left, so it was a small price to pay for any such pay off.

I noticed I stated to get strong sensations in my face and head which were like the growing pains I remembered from adolescence, but much more powerful. These have been so persistant and strong that I reduced my dose dramically when I noticed my face had broadened somewhat, then measured the circumference of my skull which had increased by over half an inch (very significant!)

I must say though, be very cautious about taking the kind of dose I was necking. Though I'm fine and actually feel better than I have for a long time, I cant say with authority everyone else would be. Have a look at the thread above from the guy who says he knows his medicine/biology



and read up a lot about the effects and risks of NATURAL growth hormone (such as symptoms mimicking acromegaly), then weigh it all up in your own mind and decide on what limits youre willing to set. Be careful, and do your research!

3) "Do you do any excercises besides taking those vitamins and supplements?"

I'm very intrigued by the special stretching exercises Ive become aware of since having a look at forums like this, and I'll probably try them out of curiosity, but no, I hadnt been doing any of them in this period - after all, I wasnt specifically looking to get taller (though it was very welcome bonus effect!).

4)" Did you recommend Alfalfa to any of your family, friends, or relatives? And did anyone of them had the same success as you have? "

Well, I recently recommended Alfalfa to a friend but only for general well being as he's quite tall already - and most of my family are pretty tall anyway, so its only on a few places like this Ive been enthusiastic about it. But I'm sure other health substances have an effect too. Again look into all the various supplements on the (legal and safe) market - youll be surprised by how many things can contribute to growth.

Omega 3 acids (a great source is found in Faxsee oil), evening primrose oil, ginseng, kelp (iodine rich) and a myriad of other things help the body build and rebuild itself. Even if you only grow a little, your whole health will certainly blossom as a result of a judicious spending on health supplements, so itll be worth your modest investment.

5) "would you mind coming back to this forum regularly and answer questions? "

I cant come back every day (very busy), but sure, I'll answer as best I can - I only wanted to offer a bit of help to others who want to change

Kaneka

http://www.network54.com/Forum/189510/th...estigating

thats the link to the thread....
it seems legit to me, anyone else that knows anything on the subject i'd like to hear what you have to say
check it out, im considering it (if you take TOO much you could get acromegaly) but in the right quanities im sure it might help.

-eliyoungfan


how many mg's is 20 tablets?


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i think it comes in different dosages but 20 is like 10grams i think

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its not anti estrogen from what i can tell it increases HGH
and from what else ive researched anti estrogens arent great for bone growth, im not knocking what you do just telling you stuff i read.

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its not anti estrogen from what i can tell it increases HGH
and from what else ive researched anti estrogens arent great for bone growth, im not knocking what you do just telling you stuff i read.


y are anti estrogens bad for bone growth?


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That's very intresting, the man that tried this was older than 30 and it increased his height.
I'm 27, so maybe there might be a chance for me also.
Where I can buy this pills?

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i guess no ones interested to check this out.
you can find it at a lot of stores, GNC maybe? on the internet for sure, and its cheap.

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