Upon latest information, we know now that Tamy333's boyfriend is associated with Carob and this way or not, she is accomplice of the big plot.

There is also further evidence from our friend Conseannery showing 2 websites for other FRIEND PRODUCTS of Carob-Fire, using PICTURES OF THE SAME TECHNIQUES as on CAROB WEBSITE and thus, definitely SCAMS.

All we have to do as scammed users with 0 growth in a month is to REUNITE UNDER ONE BANNER AND DO WHAT WE CAN ABOUT GETTING OUR REFUNDS.

I know it's a very low probability BUT WE STILL HAVE TO FIGHT. And there is no better place to do this fight than our forum here AS IT IS WATCHED CONSTANTLY BY THEIR SPIES, like many I've mentioned before.

So, as first thing, I want EVERY SCAMMED GUY, like ME and SIMONE to share their e-mails here so that we can know our number.

Then, we will decide how to force them into getting our refunds.


A note for the spies of Carob who think you're free to do every shit you can imagine on the Internet with no punishmnet in the end. You're dead wrong.

I'm starting with the FBI and CIA and especially the Health Ministery of Japan to track your e-mails and GET THEM TO INSPECT THAT PHYSICAL ADDRESS WRITTEN ON CAROB OFFICE, IF THEY ARE EVER PRESENT THERE.

So go tell it to your master Saruman, who the fuck he is, you fucking dogs and bitches.

I don't know what FBI and CIA can do, BUT I'M SURE THE MINISTERY OF HEALTH OF JAPAN will be a very good inspector for them, as THEY ARE NOBLE PEOPLE CARING FOR THEIR LIFE STANDARDS and THE QUALITY of THEIR PRODUCTS SHIPPED INTERNATONALLY.


I guess the reason they haven't acted to date against Carob is because THEY ARE NOT AWARE OF IT YET.


BUT THEY WILL BE THIS NIGHT.


ALL OF YOU BLOODY CAROB PEOPLE WHO ARE EATING THE HARDLY-EARNED MONEY OF OUR FAMILIES, MAY THAT MONEY BURN IN YOUR GUTS and YOU ALL CRAWL IN HOSPITALS BEGGING FOR SOME ATTENTION.


WE WILL GET YOU FUCKING SCAMMERS, BE PREPARED.


PS : Check for the msn chat between another of our scammed friends from Carob, Simone and Tamy. It uncovers many important truths.

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Here's the first e-mail I've sent to the Carob office to ask for a refund.. Here we go..


"DEMAND FOR REFUND
Monday, February 15, 2010 11:08 PM
From: "Burak K" <xxx@yahoo.com>View contact details
To: sales@worldgrowtallercenter.com

To whom it may concern,

I have used your product entitled Carob-Fire Big for more than 1 month to grow nothing with no side effects, such as bone pains, whatsoever and request a full refund of the initial sum I've paid for your product.

I do know it's a very little possibility that it is very unlikely that you will refund me, but then let me explain what actions I will take in both cases.

Whether you give me my refund or not, I'm referring to the Ministry of Health of Turkey, Customs Department of Turkey to let them know of your product to inhibit its further entry in our national market and to the Ministry of Health of Japan to inspect your allegedly production address written on your product and pursue with the necessary legal actions of your country.

I will also warn the Ministry of Health of the United States of Amrica, Customs Deaprtment of United States of America, and the FDA to let them know of your product and inhibit its entry into that country.

Futhermore, I will warn both Japan and the U.S.A. about another friend-product of Carob-Fire, the Bone-Core supplement which may be found here :--

http://www.grow100.com.cn/bonecore/succ.html

--to let them know about these other fake products they may have NEGLIGED this way or not and PERMITTED SOMEHOW.


I kindly ask you to contact your wholesaler here called Mr. Emre URAK and the account helder in Turkey called Mr. Selim KÃœSMEZ to refund me the amount I've paid for the product which is 1000 Turkish Liras.


In case I will not be able to get my refund quickly from them and you abandon them as your collaborators, I will also sue them.


I had told you not to take me for a desperate child whom you can rip off easily and that I would refer to all kinds of legal actions if you scammed me, but it seems that you have not taken me seriously.


I hope you will this time, as I did to you since to date.


Yours sincerely,


B K (26)
Industrial Engineer
Istanbul, TURKEY"

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Another reply of mine..

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Re: DEMAND FOR REFUND
Monday, February 15, 2010 11:20 PM
From: "B K" <xxx@yahoo.com>View contact details
To: sales@worldgrowtallercenter.com

As always, I have posted our this request e-mail on growtallforum.com, as I will share your reply, and you better respond unthreateningly unlike your representative Mori who ignorantly referred to that option once and come up with a reasonable solution.

I am a man of my words and my contact with ministries is pretty closed due to family contacts. I am also good in convincing as your spies like Tehmine do, and very able in English thanks to my high degree in TOEFL.

So I kindly warn you about the consequences my attempts may bring to your future business life and accord their refunds to all scammed people, like Simone from Italia (16), who has paid an initial 500 dollars for Carob Big. (I don't see why I have paid 700 dollars in the meanwhile..)


Yours sincerely,


B K (26)
Industrial Engineer
Istanbul / TURKEY

You may read about hgh in easyheight.com.
You better research first about how effective is hgh for growth.
Before you risk your money. Its not really difficult to save your money, but still growing.

I always want to buy hgh, but doctor say it's useless, especially if I have normal growth already. I'm 6'0.5''.
Don't believe in any advertisement. Use google or other search engine for your research.

(02-15-2010 06:43 PM)deoxys_zzz Wrote:  You may read about hgh in easyheight.com.
You better research first about how effective is hgh for growth.
Before you risk your money. Its not really difficult to save your money, but still growing.

I always want to buy hgh, but doctor say it's useless, especially if I have normal growth already. I'm 6'0.5''.
Don't believe in any advertisement. Use google or other search engine for your research.

Sorry pal, but are you taking me for an idiot?

Use Google for my research?

I'm 26 years old and have recently received a master degree. You better show some respect , huh?

Your quality is not measured by your height, it's rather measured by your personality.

If getting a refund is that easy according to your experiments, then please help me in getting my refund from Carob people.

And don't disrespect people who have bought fake height increase products just because you never had to. You can't imagine what kinds of trouble they may be going through from "your" point of view.

Which is another reason as to the lack of reason why you are here.

I remember having told you that once more.. I really can't see why you're hanging 'round here?

Maybe to satisfy your sadistic ego?

(02-15-2010 08:36 PM)Keeper of Dawn Wrote:  

(02-15-2010 06:43 PM)deoxys_zzz Wrote:  You may read about hgh in easyheight.com.
You better research first about how effective is hgh for growth.
Before you risk your money. Its not really difficult to save your money, but still growing.

I always want to buy hgh, but doctor say it's useless, especially if I have normal growth already. I'm 6'0.5''.
Don't believe in any advertisement. Use google or other search engine for your research.

Sorry pal, but are you taking me for an idiot?

Use Google for my research?

I'm 26 years old and have recently received a master degree. You better show some respect , huh?

Your quality is not measured by your height, it's rather measured by your personality.

If getting a refund is that easy according to your experiments, then please help me in getting my refund from Carob people.

And don't disrespect people who have bought fake height increase products just because you never had to. You can't imagine what kinds of trouble they may be going through from "your" point of view.

Which is another reason as to the lack of reason why you are here.

I remember having told you that once more.. I really can't see why you're hanging 'round here?

Maybe to satisfy your sadistic ego?

I am just try to give you idea, dude.
Fine, if you don't like it.
I am so sorry to disrespect you.
But please, don't ever judge people if you don't know who they are.
like "you are stupid", "you are idiot". That's not nice.
And we are from different country for sure. You never knew me before.
You never knew what I like. You never knew how I enjoy my life.You never knew my personality.
You don't know ANYTHING!!!.
I don't have any rude words there.
I am really appreciate if you could revise your last reply over and over again.

Thanks.

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If you want to argue, you can. Really appreciated without rude words.

It looks like you don't read quite attentively either huh?

I didn't call you idiot.. I was frustrated for being taken like an idiot. Neither I mentioned the word stupid.

So I urge you to go through your post as well and reconsider its tone. You will see it's quite worthy of my reply.

Well the first thing you guys should do is continue what you're doing right now and stick together. You should try to get as many people who have bought it as possible. Like maybe all users should contact you, maybe put the same message up on the other Height Increase forums too. Then you want to get everyone to file a claim about carob. Do one with http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Someone mentioned scamwatch as well. All of you guys should write keep all your receipts, contracts and don't delete any of your emails from Tamy or the carob people. Also try to recall the names of the distributors. If just one person files a claim, it won't create the same sense of urgency. So try to get as many as you can and try to get all of them to file claims. Don't just stop at the two sites I mentioned though, see if you can find some more. Good luck guys.

OK guys.. Just an hour or so ago I was contacted by the wholesaler of Carob in my country from whom I'd bought it about the refund process.

It seems after hearing the words FBI, CIA and Departments of Health, the scammers have come to their senses and urged their wholesalers to agree for refunding unhappy customers.

So, ALL CAROB USERS WHO ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PRODUCT. CONTACT CAROB OFFICE IMMEDIATELY TO ASK FOR A REFUND FROM :

sales@worldgrowtallercenter.com

You will be contacted by the wholesaler in your country, or either by Carob office if you bought from Japan directly, about how to return the product and the bank account to which they'll return your payment.

For the moment, I'm getting 9/10 of the initial amount I paid, and I'll continue to plead for getting all of it.

That was fast.

Shows them you guys are serious and mean business. All of you guys should put them heat on them and keep it on.

Don't let up.

(02-16-2010 08:51 AM)Keeper of Dawn Wrote:  It looks like you don't read quite attentively either huh?

I didn't call you idiot.. I was frustrated for being taken like an idiot. Neither I mentioned the word stupid.

So I urge you to go through your post as well and reconsider its tone. You will see it's quite worthy of my reply.

I don't have any words there that underestimate you.
I use MAY. read the words carefully.
Maybe just you that overestimate yourself. You have master degree, and older than me by 10 years. You want me to respect you better than other else.

I want to take a stand, don't blame me.

But sorry boy, you get even offended very easy although you are 26.
Older people should get wiser, and able to deal with younger people.
Your reply is very rude, and really offend me.

You don't allow people to give advice to you.

I don't really need your reply.
Older men should be wiser.
Older men with master degree should know when to offend people,and when to not offend people.
Don't ever blame me, if you can't even deal with teenagers, that's quite embarassing.

I sent them an email. I need my $120 refund for what I spent on carob-fire.