if i were you guys i would go after these bastards and make them pay. getting a refund isn't enough. If i were to get scammed i think what would hurt the most is they got my hopes up and scammed me. These assholess will scam other people if you don't. obvioiusly right now carob fire is pretty much done but these same guys will move onto a different "breakthrough product" that will scam again.

(02-17-2010 12:22 PM)JimmyWangYang Wrote:  if i were you guys i would go after these bastards and make them pay. getting a refund isn't enough. If i were to get scammed i think what would hurt the most is they got my hopes up and scammed me. These assholess will scam other people if you don't. obvioiusly right now carob fire is pretty much done but these same guys will move onto a different "breakthrough product" that will scam again.

Very Well said, Tamy talked to KOD for a long time. She obviously got to know him well. So she knew all about what his goals were and sat there knowing he wouldn't reach them and still sat there and lied to him. What kind of person does that to another person?

On another note, you guys that got scammed should thank this Simon fellow. I was looking at his messages to Tamy---he's a very ballsy guy. I must say, very impressive and well done. A moderatley well made scam taken apart at the seams by a 16 year old. Nice.

(02-16-2010 10:57 PM)deoxys_zzz Wrote:  

(02-16-2010 08:51 AM)Keeper of Dawn Wrote:  It looks like you don't read quite attentively either huh?

I didn't call you idiot.. I was frustrated for being taken like an idiot. Neither I mentioned the word stupid.

So I urge you to go through your post as well and reconsider its tone. You will see it's quite worthy of my reply.

I don't have any words there that underestimate you.
I use MAY. read the words carefully.
Maybe just you that overestimate yourself. You have master degree, and older than me by 10 years. You want me to respect you better than other else.

I want to take a stand, don't blame me.

But sorry boy, you get even offended very easy although you are 26.
Older people should get wiser, and able to deal with younger people.
Your reply is very rude, and really offend me.

You don't allow people to give advice to you.

I don't really need your reply.
Older men should be wiser.
Older men with master degree should know when to offend people,and when to not offend people.
Don't ever blame me, if you can't even deal with teenagers, that's quite embarassing.

Where did you get the idea that I can't deal with you?

What do you expect me to do other/more than replying you in English? That's as much as I can do on the internet..

Wasn't that what you wanted in 1st place.. a quality debate? If you're too fragile to digest all aspects of a mature debate, then don't even ask for that..

So.. I'm not as low as answering you by swearing to you or threatening you somehow.. which is how you should have understood that I'm mature and respectful to you but you didn't get that, no..

I'm not as low as replying you "Why don't you come here and embarrass me in real life?" either.. coz that would be as desperate as challenging somebody from your mother's basement, hm?

And the way you repeat over and over the fact that you were offended, that shows that you made it a problem much more than me, pal..

So with the least of what I can say, just drop it, OK?

Yes, just drop it.
I am so sorry. I am really emotional.

Sorry for my part as well if my first reply has offended you.

I'm not a bad person so I don't wanna feel bad for making others feel bad.

What are your order numbers I can help you guys get your refunds back since they have asked me to provide order numbers for those affected. Also state the amount you paid.

I'm not aware of that, they didn't ask me for my order number.

I've already returned them the product and I'm getting the refund in a few days from the wholesaler here.

For other countries though it may be different?..