You should try this new 2010 shinbone routine, it sounds promising. Sky only has posted real results and he says he has over 14 success stories from doing this new routine, it's not out yet though. I saw this bodyremodeling discussed on another forum and it was eventually labeled as a scam though you should still go ahead with it cos i'd love if it worked!!

DEAR

PLEASE DO NOT ASSUME OR EVEN THINK TO ORDER ME!

I WAS STUDYING YOUR PROPOSAL OF A FREE TRIAL, YET YOU POSTED YOUR BLOG BEFORE MY FINAL ANSWER, AND THE WORST IS THAT YOU PRESUME THAT AM STILL WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO TRY MY TREATMENT FOR FREE! I SPENT 5 YEARSOF MY LIFE OFFERING FREE TREATMENT TO PERFECT MY TECHNIQUE! AND DON’T THINK THAT YOU ARE SMART BY FORCING ME TO ACCEPT TO GIVE YOU A FREE TRIAL, THEN EACH AND EVERY INTERESTED PERSON WOULD OPEN A BLOG IN A HEIGHT INCREASE WEBSITE AND DO THE SAME!!!!!!! BETTER CLOSE MY CLINICS AND MAKE IT INTERNATIONALLY FREE TREATMENT!!!!!!!

ALSO, DON’T TRY TO IMPRESS ME BY A FULL PAID STAY IN ISTANBUL (EVEN THOUGH AFTER TRAVELING THE WORLD, I PREFERED ISTANBUL THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN THE WORLD!), I HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN BEST HOTELS AND BEST CITIES AND COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, AND A FULLY PAID TRIP IS NOTHING UNUSUAL FOR ME!

YOU ALSO ALWAYS MENTION BUSINESS IDEAS AND BUSINESS PLANING, AND YOU ASSUME TOO MUCH BY TRYING TO TEACH ME HOW TO DO BUSINESS OR HOW TO RUN MY BUSINESS; TO LET YOU KNOW, I OWN MANY INTERNATIONAL BUSINESSES, ALL SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES, AND THE BODY REMODELING CENTERS EXIST JUST BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD WAY TO IMPLEMENT MY INITIAL UNIVERSITY STUDIES AND EXPERTISE, AND BECAUSE I CAN ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE AROUND THE NOT JUST MAKE MONEY!

I ALREADY ACCEPTED TO GIVE YOU THE FREE TREATMENT, BUT IT WILL BE ACCORDING TO MY CONDITIONS AND IN MY WISH OF TIME AND DURATION AND EVERYTHING!!!!

I WILL POST THIS SAME EMAIL ON THE GROW TALLER FORUM!!!!!

i hope you stay with us in the forum as i'm sure i and many members are interested in your method
i wont ask for a free trial i want to be as a normal customer but i have couple of questions:

1-What if your method didnt work for me (for example) and i didnt get taller do you have money back guarantee?

2-How much The Treatment would cost for a 17 years old boy wants to grow 13 cms taller (if u can pm the price that would be ok too) i prefer the cheapest plans

i dont know how that would work as if you should visit me personally to provide me with the treatment or we can do it with everyone in his home
i'm from kuwait not far from lebenon,in your website it says u will open a clinic soon here but i dont know when and i want to get the treatment as soon as possible

thank you

(03-10-2010 10:54 AM)BODY REMODELING Wrote:  DEAR

PLEASE DO NOT ASSUME OR EVEN THINK TO ORDER ME!

I WAS STUDYING YOUR PROPOSAL OF A FREE TRIAL, YET YOU POSTED YOUR BLOG BEFORE MY FINAL ANSWER, AND THE WORST IS THAT YOU PRESUME THAT AM STILL WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO TRY MY TREATMENT FOR FREE! I SPENT 5 YEARSOF MY LIFE OFFERING FREE TREATMENT TO PERFECT MY TECHNIQUE! AND DON’T THINK THAT YOU ARE SMART BY FORCING ME TO ACCEPT TO GIVE YOU A FREE TRIAL, THEN EACH AND EVERY INTERESTED PERSON WOULD OPEN A BLOG IN A HEIGHT INCREASE WEBSITE AND DO THE SAME!!!!!!! BETTER CLOSE MY CLINICS AND MAKE IT INTERNATIONALLY FREE TREATMENT!!!!!!!

ALSO, DON’T TRY TO IMPRESS ME BY A FULL PAID STAY IN ISTANBUL (EVEN THOUGH AFTER TRAVELING THE WORLD, I PREFERED ISTANBUL THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN THE WORLD!), I HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN BEST HOTELS AND BEST CITIES AND COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, AND A FULLY PAID TRIP IS NOTHING UNUSUAL FOR ME!

YOU ALSO ALWAYS MENTION BUSINESS IDEAS AND BUSINESS PLANING, AND YOU ASSUME TOO MUCH BY TRYING TO TEACH ME HOW TO DO BUSINESS OR HOW TO RUN MY BUSINESS; TO LET YOU KNOW, I OWN MANY INTERNATIONAL BUSINESSES, ALL SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES, AND THE BODY REMODELING CENTERS EXIST JUST BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD WAY TO IMPLEMENT MY INITIAL UNIVERSITY STUDIES AND EXPERTISE, AND BECAUSE I CAN ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE AROUND THE NOT JUST MAKE MONEY!

I ALREADY ACCEPTED TO GIVE YOU THE FREE TREATMENT, BUT IT WILL BE ACCORDING TO MY CONDITIONS AND IN MY WISH OF TIME AND DURATION AND EVERYTHING!!!!

I WILL POST THIS SAME EMAIL ON THE GROW TALLER FORUM!!!!!

Woah, why would you post this? He was advertising for your clinic, and I didn't get the impression that he was saying it was free. Also, why would you allow him to pay for your trip if you are a rich and sucessful businessman? Either way, you need to learn manners.

it would be a sensation if this works, but why no one knows about this?

OK guys, I think it's time to put in some words to refresh the memories.. coz I don't think it's a method to be dumped easily, particularly in my age condition.. and I won't let it happen.

Shortly, this trial or purchase or whatever it is, it's gonna happen and you will know of it.


Now, even though in an unpleasant manner, you've got to meet Antoine. He's a good guy in fact, but for a reason I can understand only partially, I've pissed him off.. and did it quite badly and that would be why he felt the need to put his reply also here.


Anyways, I can't say I care too much. I was only trying to speed things up and even though the chances are little I may have succeeded at that. I'm expecting a phone call from Antoine these days and will share whatever info I can get with you.


Some partial discretion will/may be necessary during this process because as much as I could understand, this "opening internationally" thing is actually an ongoing operation in Antoine's mind and quoting him, "Things will be and happen as he will see fit".


So that would be all. I think I am quite fit for his treatment in terms of phsyiology, coz he said he needs rather souple bones, say thinner physically, reactive to pressures and thus open to molding.

He said, for instance, bodybuilders would hold a smaller chance to grow from this method because their bones have become "accustomed to external pressures", so they would also be "harder to remodel".


Heh.. I wouldn't think being a "super-light weight" would bring me such an advantage one day.. Yep, it happens some times.


I will provide you with more info as this thing gets more clear.

Thanks Keeper of Dawn!

Here's the last exchange of e-mails I had with Antoine concerning some theories about similar methods' side effects. I hope he will share his roadmap with us soon.

The excerpts are taken directly from my mailbox so please read from bottom to top!



Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:26 PM
From: "Antoine EL HAJJ" <xxx>
View contact details
To: xxx

i have nothing to hide!!!!

when i say something i mean it, i don't care about you or any other getting my technique or not, i am answering your questions like any other patient that comes to my clinic for regular medical physical therapy!!!
you should know me better, i am not from western europe and america who just care about money who only beleive in making more money whatever the cost, i am from the middle east, like turkey we have honor we have respect of our word!

the theory is correct and i told you this with acromegalia or gigantism! but not as this doctor said, that increasing the length of lower limb has something to do with it!!!
when i say sleeps a lot, i mean that like handicaped people who sleep all the time, this added to the fact that there muscles do not contract as they should be to help the blood flow back to the heart!
like a cowboy is nothing too important, this is not like trapezist, it the up side down factor plus the centrifuge force that refuses the blood flow to the extremities!!!




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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:04:23 -0700
From: xxx
Subject: RE: Hello
To: xxx

Hey Antoine,

Thanks very much for your answers but I think your last line kind of hides some truths.

"and yes, the taller the legs the heart will not suffer from that, unless it is like a foot or more increase and the person sleeps a lot or his lower limbs are mainly higher than his torso (trapezist)"

Let's get rid of every tiny possibility, if you want? Because I'm putting my life in this.

SO PLEASE DON'T BE OFFENDED BY MY WORDS OR MY WRITING STYLE. PLEASE.



Now..

1) "and yes, the taller the legs the heart will not suffer from that, unless it is like a foot or more increase"

So it means the theory in fact is correct but it would take like a foot or so increase in legs' length to fatigue the heart?

BUT THEN AGAIN, DO YOU SEE 6 INCHES, WHICH IS YOUR MAXIMUM EXPECTATION FROM THE METHOD (IF WE CAN EVER GET THERE OF COURSE) IS HALF A FOOT!


2) "and the person sleeps a lot"

This one's SO dangerous about me. I SLEEP A LOT! A LOT EVERYDAY! NOT LESS THAN 10 HOURS!

So why would sleeping with a longer leg size would fatigue the heart?


3) "or his lower limbs are mainly higher than his torso (trapezist)"


Ok that's embarrassing too. What if I like to keep my feet above the table just like the Americans -the Cowboys-.. and if I do it a lot.. Will I still get heart inadequacy/fatigue problem?



Antoine, man, I believe in you and you got something in there. But please clarify all of these little dark spots.. rather PLEASE TELL ME EVERYTHING.


Yours sincerely,



--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Antoine EL HAJJ <xxx> wrote:


From: Antoine EL HAJJ <xxx>
Subject: RE: Hello
To: xxxxx
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:15 PM


i never said tiny muscles, i said intra vascular valves this means that inside the blood vessels there are valves just like those existing in the heart, but much smaller, and activated by regular muscle contractions!
and yes, the taller the legs the heart will not suffer from that, unless it is like a foot or more increase and the person sleeps a lot or his lower limbs are mainly higher than his torso (trapezist)



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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:43:18 -0700
From: xxxx
Subject: RE: Hello
To: xxx

Hi Antoine,

So, quoting you :

"plus the bigger you are, the larger your heart will become to satisfy your bodily needs! but this is related to your upper body size and arms size, not your thighs and legs!"

1) So it means the need for the heart to be bigger and work more comes only from the upper body, the main systems such as respiration, the organs and NOT from taller legs.


Are you then sure more distance the blood will cover on its way back to the heart will put NO restraint on the heart AT ALL, even like 10 years or so later?


Is it just a theory or a scientific fact?


2) By the way, you talked about the tiny muscles in legs bringing blood back up to the heart. So what if these muscles became thinner when they were elongated and their carrying capacity decreased?




--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Antoine EL HAJJ <xxx> wrote:


From: Antoine EL HAJJ <xxx>
Subject: RE: Hello
To: xxxx
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 4:59 AM


dear xxxx,

i am proud that you consider me a professional worthy to answer your questions and theories.

about this heart fatigue theory, it is bogus!

the heart pumps blood, correct! but the blood when it goes up, the pumpitself is used to reach the brain not the lower limbs, the blood reaches the lower limb by simple gravity! then on the way back to heart, the heart has no effect on it, actually the muscles push the blood back to the heart, plus tiny intravascular pumps that also do this same job! when those pumps fail you get varicose veins!!!!

plus the bigger you are, the larger your heart will become to satisfy your bodily needs! but this is related to your upper body size and arms size, not your thighs and legs! and usually people who will suffer from that are people with acromegalia, which is actually the opposite of people interested in height increase!


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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:11:58 -0700
From: xxxx
Subject: Hello
To: info@bodyremodeling.org

Hi Antoine,

I would like to ask you a very important question about the general "break-the-bone and then elongate it" methodology.

The answer is crucial to my or anyone's use of your method for height growth.

Some doctors say that, if you elongated your lower limbs' length by 2 inches or 3 while the proportions of the rest of the body and the size of vital organs (such as the heart) have stayed the same, then it might lead, in the following years, to severe disharmony problems in the metabolism, the most severe of it being the heart being unable to pump blood 2 more inches up and down to the legs and so get tired as time goes on and on, thus finally resulting in an illness such as cardiac inadequacy.


The theory makes sense : Let's say you've elongated your legs by 2 inches. So it means your heart, which has remained the same size in the meanwhile, will have to pump blood 2 down and 2 up back, 4 inches more in total; but its power remained the same when the distance it pumps everyday increased dramatically.


Worst thing is, if this elongation was not 2 inches but say, 6, as in your best expectation; then the same heart would have to pump blood 12 inches more on its track.


The resulting bad effects might be weakening heart, cardiac problems, and many severe problems thereafter.


Have you taken into consideration this very scary and meaningful theory about your method and do you have a counter-theory to controvert it?


Otherwise, I assume that heart weakness is a very serious risk to take, especially for the later ages.


Yours sincerely,


PS : Btw, I'm waiting for your phone call. We're pretty much in the same time sectors in Turkey and Lebanon so you might best give me a call in the evenings when you will be ready.

The methods to cause microfractures are well known. You can combine it with lateral synovial joint modeling to get the stretching part. Then, you get Antoine's system since I'm assuming he doesn't use really heavy weights.

Hello guys,

These last days, Antoine and I have talked about the conditions of the trial but we couldn't reach to an agreement.

The main reason for this is Antoine is not as open to the idea of sharing every aspect of his treatment as, for instance, the adultheightincrease.blogspot.com guys are (those same guys whose product made me and Bgirl sick).

You will remember that he was once pissed off because I shared the main concept of his technique with you; and now, a little bit more would be too much.

Maybe it wasn't an obstacle for me undergoing the treatment, but this attitude pushed me away from this challenge.

I believe both all of you and I need to know everything, clearly about all aspects of this treatment -- and it doesn't mean necessarily the precise specifications that might lead to the copying of the method.

It's a very thin line, you see. I can understand keeping details as secret but why a main pillar of the treatment? That scared me.


The point is, if you are interested in his method, do contact him yourselves and have him convince you. I couldn't get the free trial I have asked of him and honestly I didn't have the money to cover the full treatment price -- but that is not the only reason the deal was off.

The guy prefers to work in person, which is a personal choice of course, yet upon the impression I've got about the participants of this forum for the last few years, I presume none of you guys here will be positive toward a semi-transparent communication with worldwide customers.

Personally, I couldn't trust a guy who prefers to keep the name of a main pillar of his method with thousands of his future potential customers (and who comes up with this name the last day on the phone and not everyday, openly, on his website).

Because that made me think then, that this main pillar might have some dangerous ramifications upon patient health.


My final judgment upon Antoine is "not conclusive" just like the easyheight report, and I believe that ain't for no logical reason.


I am returning back to the meditation routine, especially after reading Hollydogma's success story.

So I will kind of retire the way Yoda did after Episode III and hopefully return with positive news when I get to grow some.


My mission in this was to mediate between the two parts in an objective manner and I believe I did it just perfectly, to the extent one side of the equation let me to, but there is not more I can do after full transparency is not accepted as a business principle.