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99.9% of these routines will not work...

Some of you guys need to do more research, way more... I'm not trying to come off as a dick or anything, really just trying to save you guys a lot of time.

1. None of these oral supplements will do shit!

I've tried 99% of them, even doing extremely high doses ( 40grams of arginine a night). Oral supplements will not be effective at all. The only oral supplements that work are Anti-Aromotase and Anavar (mild steroid used to increase velocity growth). None of those stupid hgh increasing pills do anything to you.

2. The myth that sports will make you taller

A lot of you like to spread a lot of bs, one being that "x" sport will make you taller. no it won't. Don't waste your time playing basketball everyday for 30min for height increase, because it WON'T work! "Then why are basketball players so tall?" Maybe because they were genetically born tall? I'm a baller my self, I know tons of kids who played basketball there whole life yet, are still short; then I know some dudes who are 6'5+ who barely play yet are tall. The reason everyone in the nba is tall is not because they play basketball, it's because they were genetically like that. "Swimming will make your torso longer" No it won't! "then why are pro swimmers torso so long?" BECAUSE THEY ARE PRO, There bodies were made like that!. Just because an exercise releases Hgh doesn't mean its going to make you taller, because chances are the hgh increase in those exercises are so minimal you won't even notice the mildest effect.

3. These other dumb routines

Okay, jumping everyday with ankle weights isn't going to make your legs longer, its just going to damage your ligaments. Shinebone routine is total BS, there is no way you are creating enough micro fractures to be able to stimulate the bone to get longer; the only real shinbone routine is where they cut the bone in half; YOU CALL THAT MICRO FRACTURES! Yea cycling will not make your legs longer either, it just makes no sense! your bones aren't going to "adapt" by making the legs longer. All this jumping,kicking stuff is BS; don't waste your time!!

Some of you people need to go see how the process of growth works, It's VERY VERY complex, doing the things above will not be able to make you taller.


So what can make me taller?

Here is a list, In this order

- Hormones (HGH, Anti-Arm, Steriods, etc.) ( I don't recommend this to you guys)
- Hypnosis (No not those stupid mp3's that you guys have, I'm talking about visiting a very skilled hypnotherapist, It's possible and has been done; Takes time, and will not work for anyone.
- Stretching (Works, but Not permanent; can cause serious back problems in the future)

I've grown 4 inches in 6 months (stand at 6'5)


How you guys can grow taller (what I suggest)
- Good Diet
- Good amount of sleep
- Exercise
- FAITH
- Stretching
Btw, anyone who growth plates is closed the only possible way to grow taller is through Stretching.


Guys I've done a lot of research, I mean A LOT. In order to be successful you need to research a lot. I'm not a doctor remember that guys, What I say is just what I think; and I hope you guys don't do what I've said (about hormones).

11-01-2008 02:42 PM
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I HAVE done ALOT of research envolving HI and I have to disagree with you in alot of things.

"I know tons of kids who played basketball there whole life yet, are still short; then I know some dudes who are 6'5+ who barely play yet are tall. The reason everyone in the nba is tall is not because they play basketball, it's because they were genetically like that."

I agree that genetics have alot to do with how tall you are gonna be, but it isn't all it determines. The examples you are giving is completely irrelevant because there are TOO MANY factors that determines your height than just sports. Yes, not everyone who actively being envloved in basketball will grow to 6'5 but I can assure you those people would be shorter if they did not live a healthy lifestyle.

HGH is released by playing sports, by exercising and exerting pressure to certain body parts, those parts will grow. Active sports such as basketball and swimming is definitely good for height increase. I for one received quiet a bit of growth from basketball(not saying that my growth spurt didn't have anything to do with it). Ever since I've started to play basketball consistently, I've grown close to 30 cm in the span of 2 close to years. Even considering the fact that I am in a growth spurt, I am confident to say that if I did not do that I would be 5 cm shorter than now.

I don't think you should discount the credibility of things such as "ankle weights" just like that, there are quiet a number of success stories out there envolving them. Although things like that are still debatable.

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guccisox Wrote:
Some of you guys need to do more research, way more... I'm not trying to come off as a dick or anything, really just trying to save you guys a lot of time.

1. None of these oral supplements will do shit!

I've tried 99% of them, even doing extremely high doses ( 40grams of arginine a night). Oral supplements will not be effective at all. The only oral supplements that work are Anti-Aromotase and Anavar (mild steroid used to increase velocity growth). None of those stupid hgh increasing pills do anything to you.


Did you really try "99% of them"? Okay, list all of the supplments you have tried, the dosages you were taking and the length of time you took them for please.

Have you not considered that alot of supplements, as with medicines, take time to work and if you've been changing frequently from one to another you don't give them time to take effect.
Also if you've been taking incorrect dosages or one in conjunction with another you may be effecting or even completely stopping their ability to work. Heck, you may even be damaging your own body with this 'over-doses' or if you have been, taking mutiple supplements at a time. It's dangerous and foolish, and perhaps a lower dosage is more effective than a higher dosage for them?
And also, some supplements may be more effective for some people than others, as with some medicines and treatments for illness or diseases, but you didn't stop to consider that did you, oh no.

Also, sweeping statements made, discounting all oral supplements apart from 2, which apparently work. Can you back this up? With evidence of some kind? Either a coherent scienific explanation or some kind of proper case study research will do...no, of course you can't.

I'm not going to cast judgement on any of these supplements, unless I try them, with correct dosages, for a sustained period of time. I am cautious and wary of them, especially the shadier ones. There are lots of scams out there, just be careful not to be taken in by the scams. As for other legitimate supplements, just consult your doctor first to ensure it's safe and at least has a chance of helping.

You have come across as a bit of a dick.

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2. The myth that sports will make you taller

A lot of you like to spread a lot of bs, one being that "x" sport will make you taller. no it won't. Don't waste your time playing basketball everyday for 30min for height increase, because it WON'T work! "Then why are basketball players so tall?" Maybe because they were genetically born tall? I'm a baller my self, I know tons of kids who played basketball there whole life yet, are still short; then I know some dudes who are 6'5+ who barely play yet are tall. The reason everyone in the nba is tall is not because they play basketball, it's because they were genetically like that. "Swimming will make your torso longer" No it won't! "then why are pro swimmers torso so long?" BECAUSE THEY ARE PRO, There bodies were made like that!. Just because an exercise releases Hgh doesn't mean its going to make you taller, because chances are the hgh increase in those exercises are so minimal you won't even notice the mildest effect.


I completely agree that the reason pro-swimmers or basketballers are tall is not because they played the sport alot, moreso that they got to the highest level of the sport because of their natural advantages in height and reach etc. (as well as skill, technique and fitness of course). But just because there are short people who have played these sports all their lives does not prove it doesn't aid growth in a small way. Everyone growths differently, and the effect of genetics as well as all the environmental factors make sweeping statements like this stupid. What's not to say that this short person who played basketball all through childhood would not have been even shorter if not for playing it?
Sport/ exercise does increase the secretion of growth hormone, and whilst this may not have a great effect, it surely can't act negatively, it must either aid growth to some degree or neither help nor hinder. Also sports/ exercise can involve stretching or use of muscles used when stretching, so I think that activity does on the balance probabilities, aid growth. Probably not to a great degree in it's own right, but every little counts.

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3. These other dumb routines

Okay, jumping everyday with ankle weights isn't going to make your legs longer, its just going to damage your ligaments. Shinebone routine is total BS, there is no way you are creating enough micro fractures to be able to stimulate the bone to get longer; the only real shinbone routine is where they cut the bone in half; YOU CALL THAT MICRO FRACTURES! Yea cycling will not make your legs longer either, it just makes no sense! your bones aren't going to "adapt" by making the legs longer. All this jumping,kicking stuff is BS; don't waste your time!!


But surely micro-fractures works on a similar level to stretching? The stress on the bone through the exercise, stretching, ankle weights, hanging or whatever causes the slight fractures which increase the length of the bone slightly, and when the fractures heal the the length of the bone is slightly more. If this process happens a lot then a worthwhile gain could be made on the bone, not a massive increase.

I admit it's all theory here, but I do believe there's something in it.


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Some of you people need to go see how the process of growth works, It's VERY VERY complex, doing the things above will not be able to make you taller.

So what can make me taller?

Here is a list, In this order

- Hormones (HGH, Anti-Arm, Steriods, etc.) ( I don't recommend this to you guys)
- Hypnosis (No not those stupid mp3's that you guys have, I'm talking about visiting a very skilled hypnotherapist, It's possible and has been done; Takes time, and will not work for anyone.
- Stretching (Works, but Not permanent; can cause serious back problems in the future)


You've got that right. There's no logic or science in hypnosis as far as physically altering the body, furthermore there's no proper evidence of it.

I agree stretching should help, and hormones could but the possible side-effects are a major consideration, even if your doctor agreed to administer them. However it's laughable that you make such sweeping statements before about what doesn't work, but then say hypnosis definitely works. You haven't backed it up or explained how it could possibly work (probably because there's no evidence or logic to back it up with).

Also, how old are you? How do you know it can cause serious back problems in the future?


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no one here could have said it better than you Andy, great response.

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Can I just say that people who play basketball are tall because they were chosen... I mean... Say your like an NBA guy, picking people for the team, and theres heaps of pro's playing a game and ou have to pick one.

Theyre all really skilled and play very well, but some are 5 feet and others are 6 - 7 feet. Who would you pick? They get chosen for their tall..ness. Its like modelling. They care about height the most...

Sorry it wasnt really relevant but thought id point it out xD


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I don't think you understand the dynamics of basketball very well Jay, since you are a girl.

There are 5 positions in basketball, guards are usually shorter and centres are usually the tallest on the court. To have a successful basketball team, you cannot have all very tall people, they will get owned by shorter guards since they would not keep up with their speed.

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Hah cheers youngweatherman, I didn't notice you were replying as well otherwise I'd have saved my breathe. You covered pretty much what I was saying and without the additional waffle Wink

I think everyone else here has already agreed with that Jay!


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LOL Andy, normally I would not reply to such a post but since I would become an fourm administrator soon I am looking to have some arguments with a few "out-of-the-league" individuals. Just to get the mean and angry side of me out of my system. Wink

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TC, I had some faith in your post until I read about hypnosis at which time I fell of my chair laughing. Get a grip lad. What I am also failing to understand is why you were taking oral pills etc, when you were over 6ft. And being 6'5 now, and having grown 4 inches, how do you know that none of the pills worked. By the way I'd like to add that I myself wouldn't take pills etc, and have no faith in them, micro fractures etc. But you've come along, making sweeping statements then casually added, 'yeah but I'm 6'5 and have grown 4 inches.'

What I am also not getting here is why you have said effectively in your second paragraph, that exercise doesn't work. But then mentioned exercise at the end? I personally agree with you post as a whole though. But I would add that exercise promotes a healthier body, thus a person who exercises will generally grow taller than somebody who doesn't. Through puberty that is. Not when you're playing in the local over 35's tennis matches.

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I just wanted to ask you guccisox, how the hell did you grow 4 inches in 6 months, so 6 months ago you were 6'1 right? well thats pretty close to my height at the moment, so you must be 6'5 now, how did you grow so much in so little time?


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